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to avoid the most immediate economic impacts of the fiscal cliff. with 15 hours to go and counting, members of congress are disgusted and embarrassed. >> when the future of the country, you know, rests in the hands of 70 and 80-year-olds who have jet lag, it's probably not the best thing. >> something has done terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our american economy is our american congress. >> the senate will reconvene at 11:00 this morning, but after a day of public gamesmanship and little obvious progress behind the scenes on sunday. >> there's still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> mitch mcconnell called on vice president joe biden to be that dance partner. biden has brokered 11th-hour deals with the republican leader in the past. mcconnell's appeal came just hours after the president appeared on "meet the press" and called out republican leaders by name. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to g
, and going over the fiscal cliff. if congress fails to act in the remaining hours of 2012, taxes will go up on all americans and a series of mandatory government spending cuts will kick in. hello, new year. hello, new recession. after two years of missing self-imposed deadline after self-imposed deadline, all eyes were on the senate over the weekend as the house's failure to even bring a plan to a vote left it up to the upper chamber to find a way out. vice president biden who had remained on the sidelines in this round of talks was even called in to help move things along. but as the saying goes, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. this morning, insanity continues as the clock ticks down and we have less than 17 hours to go. so joining us now to help us sort out this mess, we have former adviser to the bush administration and the romney campaign, dan senor. dan, will we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm afraid we will. i think it will get fixed right after right into the new year but i don't think it will get solved. >> something small, kick
-called fiscal cliff. it's come down to a matter of hours. midnight tomorrow, everybody's taxes going up unless something happens in washington, d.c. hello to you all and welcome to weekends with alex witt. i'm t.j. holmes filling in for alex. a consequence of history in the nation's capital if congress cannot reach a compromise deal on tax and spending cuts. a short time ago, we were hearing from the president talking about the fiscal cliff negotiations. he spoke exclusively on "meet the press" and he had a message for congress. >> at minimum, make sure people's taxes don't go up and 2 million people don't lose their unemployment. i was modestly hopeful yesterday. now, the pressure is on congress to produce. >> the president responded to what would happen if no agreement is reached and the nation does fall over that cliff. >> if you look at projections of 2013, people generally felt that the economy would continue to grow, unemployment would tick down, housing would continue to improve, but what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington. if people start seeing that on januar
>>> 6:00 on the east coast. just 30 hours remain before the country goes over the fiscal cliff, and we're still waiting for a deal. good evening. i'm chris jansing. the senate is going home for tonight. democratic and republican leaders had hoped to reach an agreement by 3:00 this afternoon. >> i was really glad to hear republicans have taken their demand for social security benefit cuts off the table. the truth is, it should never have been on the table to begin with. there's still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. there's still time left to reach an agreement, and we intend to continue negotiations. i ask unanimous content that the senate proceed tomorrow morning. >> earlier, they took to the floor to explain the setback in negotiations this morning. >> i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. i think we all know we're running out of time. this is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. i'm interested in getting a r
. >> 30 hours to go until the country hits the fiscal cliff and still no deal. i'm melissa rayberger, and the white house has sent one of its top negotiators to capitol hill, but right now it's all centered on the senate, and as democrats dig in to protect social programs, republicans do the same on taxes. >> raising taxes to pay for new spending is not something that republicans believe this debate ought to be about. it ought to be about reducing the deficit and the debt, and what they are essentially suggesting is we want new taxes. we want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> so what happens next? with us nbc news capitol hill correspondent mike vic rah and nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems
, there is some good news in that she's expected to recover. >> turning back to the fiscal cliff, just this hour we have reports of republicans claiming the president is holding up talks over the sequester. now we have senator mitch mcconnell and the president saying they want a deal on taxes first before dealing with the sequester. what's going on down there? >> reporter: well, there's this final sticking point of the sequester. they have agreed to this tax deal, which is not insignificant, of course. this tax deal which will increase taxes on individuals making $400,000 or more and couples making $450,000 or more because, remember, some republicans have been resistant to raise taxes at all. the hangup over the sequester is that the white house is saying, democrats are saying let's extend it, stave it off for a year, and pay for it with new tax revenues. republicans say, no, let's deal with it in the nearer future. that's really where the fight is coming together, but these negotiations continue to evolve and my sources tell me they're still optimistic for a deal. >> kristin welker, thank you.
staring down the fiscal cliff. t-minus nine hours and counting and washington is wasting no time. senate minority leader mcconnell saying both sides are close to a deal. it's about time. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain. whatever you want to call it. that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way. with this congress, that was obviously a little bit too much to hope for at this time. it may be we can do it in stages. >> there are a number of issues on which the two sides are still apart but negotiations are continuing as i speak. but we really are running out of time. >> the vice president and i have worked together on solutions before and i believe we can again. >> no holiday for the best political team around. a triple threat, luke russert and mike viqueira on the capitol hill and kristen welker from the white house. are you happy to be working on the holiday? >> it's fantastic. >> absolutely. >> sounded believable. viq, let's start with you. we have news trickling out to
. >>> meantime, the fiscal cliff stand-off in washington continues. at this late hour the senate and house of representatives both went into recess, still no deal. republican senate leader mitch mcconnell reached out to vice president joe biden to help reach an agreement. two men who have served as their party's closers, so to speak, on tough deals before. senate majority leader harry reid says he plans to have a plan up for a vote tomorrow morning. although there are serious differences on both sides. >> we're not going to have any social security cuts at this stage, it just doesn't seem appropriate. i still hold out hope we can get something done but i'm not overly optimistic but i am cautiously optimistic. >> republicans pushed back on claims by democrats that the social security benefit measurement, which is known as the chained cpi and basically would reduce the amount of money that senior citizens get under social security, was part of the republican plan. in any case, that is off the table. senator john mccain posted this on twitter, most of us agree the chained cpi is off the table
manure around here. >> this isn't school house rock. >> the fiscal cliff. whatever. >> there is barely 00 hours. >> the last minute was before christmas. >> what is going on here? is. >> how come there is no sense of urgency. >> the entire house coming back sunday night. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress. we are going to hit the debt ceiling. it never ends. >> happy new year's america. ♪ 29 and a half hours that is how long congress will have to avoid going over the fiscal curve on sunday night. >> if we go over the cliff, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today with the first of the year, aren't here. i can't mamg they are out wherever th
's by a few hours going over the fiscal cliff at midnight? you know better than me the kind of inner workings of how this stuff goes? >> well, there are staffers ready to put any deal or handshake that might be agreed into legislative language? some pieces of that already exist. some would take time. think of it as writing a contract. the language is important. it needs to be specific. they need to commit to that. there would be people ready to do that. i was told earlier today that could take hours in and of itself. then let's say the senate were to meet to decide to pass it, and if they were able to pass it, then it goes to the house. we're being told that it might, in fact, be a case where the house would receive it, but actually cast a vote tomorrow on new year's day. the markets are not open. the affect of taxes would have changed. then it is, in fact, a tax cut season. not a tax increase season. again, those mechanics can be adjusted somewhat, but there are real practical elements that go beyond the political wrangling that will be dealing with if, in fact, we get -- if we get a deal, a
exist, craig, now with barely 100 hours until the fiscal cliff deadline. two sides made it very clear. john boehner couldn't pass with house republicans the idea of raising taxes only on those making more than a million dollars. the president has insisted throughout that $250,000 had been his limit. it's bumped up to $400,000. but even when they were within just a couple hundred billion dollars, which seems like a lot to you and me but it is not a lot in the language of washington, then they went opposite directions an enwhere the political particular sis stands at this moment. >> all right. peter and alexander, thank you good sir. joining me now karen bass of california. congresswoman, good to see you and nice to see you there from the capitol. you are still in california because house members, again, haven't been called back and given the 48-hour notice to my knowledge. have you? >> exactly. i have flights scheduled every day waiting for that notice to come. i think it is a shame. i think the house should be back in business in d.c. right now. the senate's in session. there's no rea
to be here. thank you. >> the obvious question, are we going to go over the fiscal cliff? >> we'll find out in the next 48 hours what congress will decide to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended, and they are all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight december 31, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they are less likely to hire, and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is actually starting to pick up. we are seeing signs of recovery in housing and in employment numbers improving. and so what congress needs to do, first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major to
when people were starting to lose hope on the edge of the fiscal cliff the president met with leaders and said he was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. meeting this the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good and constructive discussion here with the leadership about this tax hike on the middle-class. i am optimistic that we can reach an agreement that will be passed in both houses. if an agreement is not reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor and up or down vote for the floor, and i believe a p proposal could pass both houses with majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to be be the big new
it comes to the fiscal cliff. number one, we're going to see an agreement in the next 48 hours in which case middle-class taxes will not go up. if that doesn't happen, then democrats in the senate will put a bill on the floor of the senate, and republicans will have to decide if they're going to block it, which will mean that middle-class taxes do go up. i don't think they would want to do that mitticalpolitically, bu may end up doing it. if republicans do decide to block it and middle-class families' taxes do go up january 1st, we'll come back with a new congress january 4th. the first bill that will be introduced on the floor will be to cut taxes on middle-class families. i don't think the average person is going to say, gosh, you know, that's a really partisan agenda on the part of either the president or democrats in congress. i think people will say, that makes sense because that's what the economy needs right now. so one a or another, we'll get through this. do i wish that things were more orderly in washington and rational and people listen to the best arguments and compromised a
weekend. good luck in washington now. >>> next hour we'll hear from more lawmakers about the fiscal cliff. we'll have senator bernie sanders from vermont he'll be here as well as representative karen bass of california. in our 1:00 eastern hour right here on msnbc. >>> we need to turn now to weather. a winter storm another one dropping snow in the northeast. take a look now. you know a lot of people -- just a few days away. we've got a little snow coming down here now actually. that's the spot a lot of people are going to gather. right outside the studios here, rockefeller plaza. but the new year's countdown they expect some million people to be out there when the ball drops. but when that ball drops, how bad is it going to be out there? are they going to be getting snowed on? dylan dryer, would you recommend going out there on new year's receive in. >> of course. it's new year's eve in new york city. but the snow will be gone by then. it is a snowstorm nonetheless and the roads and anyone traveling in the northeast will run into some issues. we've already seen some reports of pretty bad
-- are we going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think we're going to find out in the next 48 hours what congress decides to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended and they're all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight, december 31st, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they're less likely to hire and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is starting to pick up and we're seeing signs of recovery in housing and employment numbers improving. so what congress needs to do first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campa
limit. >>> congressman chris van hallen said congress needed to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff by christmas. less than 48 hours until that cliff what does he think now? you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. >>> the self-imposed 3:00 p.m. deadline the senate came up with for a deal has come and gone which means without a last minute deal starting january 1st tax hikes and massive spending cuts will be in effect. extended unemployment benefits have ended. we will be live on capitol hill with the latest developments coming up in just a moment. before we take you over to capitol hill here are stories that we are monitoring for you today. a new york woman who allegedly admitted to pushing a subway commuter to his death has been charged with second degree murderer as a hate
on the fiscal cliff wrapped up just moments ago. the president met for one hour and five minutes with speaker boehner and other congressional leaders. none of the participants spoke to reporters on the way out of the white house, but all of washington is waiting with bated breath to find out what was said and if anything was actually decided. we're going to go to washington and check in with representative she'll l ly jackson lee. obviously members of congress, you came back in anticipation of reconvening on sunday. i'm wondering if you're hearing anything out of the meeting and if you're hopeful a deal can be reached. >> silence is sometimes golden and i have been drinking my starbucks come together coffee all day long. i'm hoping the president served the leadership while they were at the white house. silence, as i said, may be a good sign. frankly, i believe it's important for the leadership to get back to fellow leaders and members possibly to run by them what i believe was a proposal that the president offered, either come up with by your own proposal or take my plan, which the president
. as fiscal cliff talks drag into the 11th hour with $600 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts due to kick in early next year, lawmakers will get back to the table later this week after house speaker john boehner's plan b failed to get enough republican support for a vote last week. >>> still, the market has been resilient. despite friday's decline, the s&p 500 posted its best week in four. and with just five trading sessions left in 2012, the dow has advanced 8% while the s&p 500 climbed 13. the nasdaq has jumped 16%. >>> reports are due this week on pending home sales. sales of new homes and a look at home prices in the nation's 20 largest cities. >>> are you still not sure what to get for the person who has everything? new retail numbers show footwear was the fifth most popular gift on shoppers' lists on black friday. a year ago, shoes didn't even make it into the top ten gifts for the season. >>> good news for hollywood. attendance by moviegoers is up more than 5.5% so far this year. ticket revenue is projected to jump by 6% by the end of 2012 which would be the industry's biggest year
negotiations on the fiscal cliff. with me now former pennsylvania democratic congressman and retired three-star navy admiral joe sestak who served as campaign press secretary for rick santorum. i want to get -- quick sfrons you about general schwartzkopf. you are a military man. it is remarkable to me while he was very much involved in desert storm, he was a little critical of the iraq war when no weapons of mass destruction were found the second time. >> i think that's because his legacy will be that he is a soldier's soldier. as was mentioned he knew when was the cost of this war. not only for the nation but individuals. if you remember that one briefing, mother of all briefings, one journalist said to him why isn't the marine corps going more quickly lou the mine fields and looked at that journalist and said have you ever been in a minefield? i have in viet ma'am. put each foot down not knowing if it will be blown off. he was cautious for the nation and for his men and women. what a great general. >> indeed. now we will take a turn to politics. obviously democrat and republican we have
-la! >>> welcome back to "hardball." any moment now we expect to hear from president obama on the 11th hour fiscal cliff talks that he had this afternoon with the congressional leaders. we're joined now about nbc's kristin welker who is on the north lawn of the white house to give us a sense of where we think the talks are at. earlier today we just heard from senate leader mitch mcconnell's office saying he hopes that senate leaders can make recommendations on the fiscal cliff by sunday. kristin, i just want to ask you while we're waiting for the president to come out here, do you get a sense of where the white house is feeling these talks are going? >> reporter: according to a source close to the talks, president obama thought the conversation was constructive this afternoon. he apparently reiterated the plan that he basically mapped out last friday, which would extend the bush era tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less, extend unemployment insurance as well as the estate tax, and i am told that those are two of the sticking points, the estate tax as well as that $250,000 figure. so that's re
.com/pricerewind. >>> about a quarter of the hour on this saturday morning. >>> despite the fiscal cliff, president obama has ended the freeze on federal pay, only about .5%. and biden will see his pay go go up to $231,900. speaker boehner will make $224,600. that's $30,000 more than the pay of senate and house majority and minority leaders. those raises maybe good news for congress. but the rest of america won't be so happy when they see their paycheck next year. it's almost certain that the government will not extend the payroll tax holiday. that means a 2% tax increase for every last one of us. joining me is gerald bernstein, a senior fellow at the center of budget and policy priorities. get the title out. let's get to business. why are we not talking about this? talking about the cliff, but everybody's taxes going up with the payroll tax holiday. >>ith a great question, t.j. an important and underappreciated part of the fiscal cliff. the answer to the why is it really doesn't have any champions. when you hear the list of things people fighting for, estate tax, you hear the unemployment extension, things
-called fiscal cliff. i'm craig melvin and you are watching msnbc, with all the focus on the fiscal cliff, will there be action on gun control. meanwhile, we are going to talk to an attorney general that wants to arm teachers to protect students. and the race to fill john kerry's senate seat. first, fiscal cliff talks. countdown clock tot screen. the senate is shouldering most of the weight of that deadline. senate leaders working behind closed doors to come up with a cliff compromise, something that the house and the president has failed to do so is far. the president has tasked senator majority leader harry reed. >> i have asked senator reed to do it, put a by on the floor to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up. and unemployment insurance is still available for two million people and lays the groundwork for economic growth and deficit reduction. >> everything that has been happening in the last several hours has been happening behind the scenes. we have correspondents tracking everything for you. we have luke, luke, i will start with you this hour. the senate offi
saying a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is in sight and not done yet. in the wake of that, stocks are higher as investors remain laser focused on the fiscal cliff negotiations and right now the dow up about 70 points right now and that could break the string of five straight losing sessions on wall street. now joining me is sue herrera. how are you investors feeling? >> i think rather uncertain because as the president said, the deal is in the works but it is not done yet. wall street is aching for a deal. we saw that as the president was speaking at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. the dow jones industrial average up 75 and then mentioned the fact that we weren't getting the deal done right now at this very minute. we sold off on the trading session so wall street needs some certainly. it doesn't need a band aid approach and unfortunately it looks like that's what we're going to get. that's probably better than going over the fiscal cliff but wall street's a very fickle place and they like more certainty than right now. >> cromwell much, he said in the past that what needs to happen to ge
. the new year and the so-called fiscal cliff. for the record, though, it's about 178 hours away if we're getting down to the wire. that's specifically. how much negotiating can be squeezed in to that little bit of time? >>> new numbers on whether exist consumers are buying less. >>> and just in time for the holiday, a christmas storm expecting to hit the midwest. when, where and how much snoi is expected. we bring the answers in minutes. >>> we start with optimism as a last words that comes to mind with the fiscal cliff and with just a week left for talks left, la lawmakers are saying a deal is looking less likely than ever. >> it's a first time i feel it's more likely that we'll go over the cliff than not. and that -- if we allow that to happen it will be the most coloss colossal, consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. maybe ever in american history because of the immaterial pact on almost every single american. >> what will happen to an average american paycheck in a deal is not reached by january 1st? joining me now, washington bureau correspondent hamp
at the bottom of your screen runs out. so where do fiscal cliff talks stand at this critical hour? nbc's kristen welker is on the north lawn and luke russert are both following developments this saturday afternoon. kristen, i'll start with you. any indication at this particular point as to what's happening behind closed doors this afternoon? >> reporter: well, i think most of the action is going on in the hill where staffers with majority leader reid and minority leader mcconnell are trying to conjure up some last-minute deal and this plan would not be the grand bargain that john boehner started initially working on. that plan would have dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction and this will be a much more scaled back version that will deal with the issue of taxes and that is still the big sticking point, taxes. of course, democrats and president obama have called for tax rates to increase on those making $250,000 or less. republicans have said that's way too low. so they're thinking about potentially compromising on a rate that would be $400,000 or $500,000, but some republicans are saying t
to work, another sign of inaction on the fiscal cliff front. joining me now for our daily fix, mr. jonathan capehart, msnbc contributor and "washington post" editorial writer. jonathan, we're just six days away, no indication from house republicans that they are going to come back any time soon. the leadership has gone mum on that. we know there's not been communication between boehner and mcconnell, obama and boehner. are you amazed with this short amount of time to go there seems to be no sense of urgency on either side? >> am i amazed, given what we went through with the debt ceiling, no, i'm not amazed. i think there are forces here in this town that would like for us, sure people would like for there to be a deal, but going over the cliff on january 1st when there's this notion where it's not really a cliff, it's a slope, it's a curb depending who you talk to, that you can repair the damage if you get a deal done, you know, a few days after january 3rd. i think people feel like they can slow walk. as we saw last week when plan b failed, you know, speaker boehner said it's up
. just seven hours now until the nation goes over the fiscal cliff. and after weeks of negotiations and public posturing, democrats and republicans have reached an agreement on tax rates in their negotiations. let me tell you what we know at this hour. the deal is said to raise $600 billion in revenue over the next decade through a series of tax increases on the wealthiest americans. th bush era tax rates would be text ended for all single americans with incomes below $400,000 and couples with income below 45000$450,000. all income above that would be tacked at 39 pittsburgh.6%. the deal is said to include a permanent fix for the alternative minimum tax and it extends unemployment insurance for another year for 2 million americans. this was huge for the democrats. speaking at the white house in front of a group of middle class americans just a few hours ago, the president urged congress to act immediately. >> for now our most immediate priority is to stop taxes going up for middle class families starting tomorrow. i think that is a modest goal that we can accomplish. democrats and r
're looking at a deadline that's 16 hours away, the country risked going over what he called a fiscal cliff. since the president's re-election, he and republicans have traded offers and counteroffers, finding little common ground on tax increases and cuts from entitlements. president obama and speaker boehner met one on one. nothing happened. the speaker offered plan "b," never got enough support within his own party. here we are all over again. do we have tom coburn? joining us now from capitol hill, republican senator from oklahoma, senator tom coburn. senator, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> so, why, first of all, does this deadline tonight matter? and i heard you make comments yesterday out on the streets of washington to a reporter that you think we're going to go over the cliff? >> i do. >> okay. >> i do. let me take issue with a couple of things you said. >> okay. >> number one is we haven't cut the first penny yet from the federal government, and it's important people know that. what happened in that agreement is $1 trillion in increased expenditures didn't happen. >
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in the next five hours, america will be going over the fiscal cliff. we do know that after intense negotiations between senate minority leaders, let me show you the highlights. $600 billion in revenue will be raised over the next decade through a series of raises on taxes for the wealthiest americans. and those rates would also carry over for couples making under 450,000. any income above those two numbers would be taxed at 39.6 pnt. the top tax rate under president clinton. and capital gains taxes above those amounts would be increased to 20%, that is up from 15%. this tax deal would also create a perm naanent fix for the alternative minimum tax and extend unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. the president made it clear what his top priority is in any deal. >> preventing that tax hike has been my top priority. because the last thing folks like the folks up here on the stage can afford right now is to pay an extra $2,000 in taxes next year. middle class families can't afford it. businesses can't afford it. our economy can't afford it. >> just an hour later, senate minori
talk less and legislate more. the house has already passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff. >>> the president gets set to land in washington this hour. there's new word that the president has called all four congressional leaders. reid, mcconnell, boehner and pelosi. . joining me to talk more, we have peter alexander standing by at the white house as well as nbc's mike viqueira on capitol hill. some verbal smackdown, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hurdles. if they have the votes around here, they can legislate the sky is green and the grass is blue. that's not an issue. what harry reid is really saying is mitch mcconnell, get on board, don't try to filibuste
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's made it clear at that time fiscal cliff deadline may not be met. joining me live to talk about scenarios ahead, former pennsylvania representative and 2010 senate candidate as well, joe sestak, always good to see you. >> good to see you, craig. >> right now ideas are being debated behind closed doors and you suggest we shouldn't be talking so much about a fiscal cliff, per se. we should be talking about a bunny slope. describe what you think should happen. >> the fiscal cliff means we're taking $700 billion out of the economy because of the tax increases and spending cuts. if that happens our economy will hit rock bottom. we'll have zero growth over 2013. we will have, by the end of 2014, double digit unemployment. millions of americans will lose employment. so what you want to do is change the scale of that fiscal cliff to a gentle, let's say, bunny slope. we have a fragile economy, but it's accelerating and it's predicted as this year to grow. it grew at 2% to goh at 3% or more this coming year so you want this skier, so to speak to go down the slope and pick up speed so when
at the top of the hour on "morning joe," treasury secretary tim geithner throws a monkey wrench in the fiscal cliff talks, announcing that the u.s. will reach its budget cliff by monday. we'll discuss that on "morning joe." and when we come back, we'll hudding around the water cooler, where it gets awkward in an interview between the obamas and barbara walters. that's next when "way too early" comes right back. ♪ >>> okay, enough with the real news, let's gather around the water cooler to watch barbara walters try to pull back the curtain on life at the white house. the 83-year-old journalist sat down to interview president obama and the first lady, assuming we've all heard plenty about the fiscal cliff, walters wasted little time pivoting to more intimate territory. >> when you look at this picture, what do you think? at what point was it taken? >> i think we were campaigning in iowa. >> so, why were you hugging so hard in iowa? >> because i love my wife. >> well, and also, i hadn't seen him in a while. i mean, you know, when you're campaigning, we're two ships passing in the night, and th
. >>> about 12 1/2 hours and counting now until we could fall off the so-called fiscal cliff. the house and senate are both in session. there are reports of progress in reaching a deal there. here is senator majority leader harry reid in just the past half hour. >> there are a number of issues on which the two sides are still apart and negotiations are continuing as i speak. whether or not we reach an agreement in the short time we have left we'll need cooperation on both sides to prevent taxes going up tomorrow for every family in america. >> joining me live right now is democratic congressman steve israel of new york, who is chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee. a lot happening there, congressman. thanks for speaking with us. just to get some details we just got handed to us from kelly o'donnell, that is that in the latest deal in terms of the details, the taxes that are being discussed, regardless of the rate for a moment, they would be permanent and would not have a sunset provision. again, the progress is that they have come up with some understanding of an i
await the outcome of the fiscal cliff negotiations. on the positive side you won be seeing $8 a gallon for milk because congress gave a one year extension for the farm bill. those who love your 75 watt light bulbs stock up while supplies last. new federal laws prohibit them to be import order produced in 2013. the tribune company announced it's emerging from bankruptcy with new ownership and new board of directors and forbes has compiled a list of new york's resolution that successful people make and actually keep. among them plan vacations now. wake up to the essentials first, check e-mail second. support a cause. find your purpose and go for it. go for it. new year's day marks the 150th anniversary of emancipation proclamation. the document is once again on display. ron mott has details. >> reporter: showing its age the emancipation proclamation still draws attention. >> it's amazing to see abraham lincoln's signature. >> reporter: today the frail order consigned to history on january 1st, 1863 by abraham lincoln is again on public display. showtime just a few days every year. >> ver
on tacks? the discouraging thing about the fiscal cliff negotiations is not that they have gone into the eleventh hour. it's that president obama has retreated on his hard line on taxes. obama may think his conciliatory approach has helped avoid economic chaos. instead, he is courting it." i want to go right to jimmy williams because you have been a senate staffer. you understand how this thing works. why would the white house even bother to increase from 250,000 to 400,000. they don't really have to. they're winning this fives fight. >> the only people that actually care whether or not the threshold is 250,000 to 400,000 are these people that are going to vote on it. nobody else really cares. all they really care is that you get a deal. these people are sitting at ground zero. these snores, these liberals. i'm a liberal. i don't care what the thereby hold is. i don't give a damn if it's a million. i just want them to get a deal or go over the cliff, but somebody just make up your mind up on capitol hill. that's what the american people would like to hear. here's the bottom line
th hour is here. will last-minute action be enough to avoid a fiscal cliff? to avoid a cliff dive? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, in light of the president's remarks, will a fiscal cliff deal get done? text "a" for yes, text "b" for no to 622639 or go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is senator sheldon whitehouse of rhode island, a member of the senate budget committee. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> sir, this is serious, this is even dire. are you encouraged by the meeting today and the president's remarks in the aftermath of that meeting? >> well, i think that the decision to move the forum for the negotiations to the senate was a necessary one. i have a lot of confidence in harry reid's negotiating ability. mitch mcconnell is a veteran negotiator, and i think there's a far better prospect of something being worked out in the senate than there was dealing with speaker boehner and his completely dysfunctional house republican party. >> sure. well, abidi
an hour away now from the late es effort to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. the three-way stare down between the white house, the senate, the congress moves to pennsylvania avenue. president obama meeting behind closed doors with house speaker boehner, senate majority leader harry reid and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell talking about doing something to keep more than trillion dollars in tax increases and cuts from taking effect next week. also joining that party today, america's happy warrior. vice president joe biden will be there. while some appear ready to compromise others are still ducking, dodging, trying to dump the blame elsewhere. >> we all have our ideas and in the senate, you're right. we probably another 40, 50, 60 of saying that we're ready to both raise revenues and control entitlements. when's the missing ingredient? it is presidential leadership. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff, namely taxes going up on middle class people. >> it's pretty appa
. >> they're willing to take us over the fiscal cliff essentially controls john boehner, preventing him from being able to make any reasonable deal to avoid taxes increasing on 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. >> being held hostage. knew that the clock was ticking. >> well, i don't know if it's so much that he boxed himself in. there is a fact out there that we now see more districts represented by people who win by over 20%, so they are hyper-partisan. yes, there are more republicans who are hyper-partisan than there are democrats. >> is boehner betting on the president losing? >> i don't know. i think what he was betting on is he could play his cards a little better. where he really lost control was on the parliament b move. i don't know what happened there. i think peel were hopeful they could come to a deal, but for a big deal to happen action he wood to have gone without the majority in congress, that could have led to a bigger deal, which he wasn't ready to do now, but perhaps after he's reelected speaker with the new congress in, he could put forward. >> we all have words
over the fiscal cliff. we are going either all the way over or going partly over, but we are definitely, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow me a quick update here. that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until
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